When Shitflinging Collides (Dear Sargon)
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amyvanhymGame of Thrones, Rick and Morty and Sargon of Akkad are a few of my favourite things.
Rick and Morty has had some problems lately. I caught wind that they had diversity hires working on S3, and so naturally the writing tanked severely at the start of the season (I will be devoting a separate entry to that heartbreak), but then there came a really fantastic episode. The show started to recover. I had hope. I haven't watched the most recent episode yet, but it ended with a memorial:
This 'joke' was so hypnotizing that even Sargon of Akkad was affected:
I don't usually bother making YouTube comments, but he claims he actually reads them, so today I bothered. Here is a link to it, and here it is in full:
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Dude you're ignoring whole conversastions. Maybe the writing looks so lazy to you because you've forgotten most of it.
Arya meeting Nymeria was clearly a chekhov's gun. That something hasn't happened yet does not mean the writing is bad. The story is not finished.
There was actually an argument in the show about why Jon had to go to Dragonstone and it reached a resolution. Did you miss it? You're talking like you watched the first line of that scene and then skipped to the next.
Littlefinger was not executed for killing Ned Stark. Joffrey Bratheon is the one who killed Ned Stark. (Joffrey Baratheon was killed by Olenna Tyrell and Littlefinger who conspired to poison him for reasons unrelated to Ned). Littlefinger was executed for starting the war between the Lannisters and the Starks by poisoning Jon Arryn, the Lord of the Vale, and also for killing his wife, Sansa's Aunt Lysa, the Lady of the Vale. Sansa is the niece of the murdered Lord and Lady of the Vale. She just exposed and executed their house's usurper. Perhaps that has something to do with the reason the Knights of the Vale stuck with her. Who else is going to lead them? Robin? You want the Knights of the Vale to start taking orders directly from a tantruming teen autist whose allegiances can be swayed by gifting him a new pet? The Vale is Sansa's.
Daenerys clearly has an actual psychic connection to her dragons. Good job. Slow clap.
One good point so far: originally Dothraki sucked against plate armor, so why don't they suck now? The dragon may be a good enough reason in this one instance, but the issue should come up.
Other good point I guess: yes the travel times are a bit fucked. No, that it is fantasy does not excuse inconsistency. However I think they are probably less severely fucked than you think they are.
Yes, mass producing ballistas might be exactly what Cercei plans to do with some of her funds from the Iron Bank, now that she can afford it. The fact that something hasn't happened yet does not mean the writing is bad. The story is not finished.
You think it was "convenient" that Jon's a Targaryan "by the way"? You think that's a plot contrivance? Holy shit? R+L=J has been built in since the very beginning. It is absolutely central. Rewatch S1, pleb.
I will not be bothering with the last six minutes and I will not be going back to listen to this over again to make sure I didn't miss anything. Yes, there are a few problems. There are also a lot of brilliant elements that you are completely ignoring.
Jesus Christ Sargon. You're a really smart guy and I love you but you took a huge stinky dump today. Consider not taking your cues from the mean-girl gossip spat out by a few catty diversity hires on the Rick and Morty writing team.
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That Rick and Morty writing memorial thing wasn't a joke. It didn't have a punchline. It was mud flung hypocritically and unprofessionally at a superior in classic prissy high school clique fashion. THIS is what competent catty humor looks like.
Rick and Morty has had some problems lately. I caught wind that they had diversity hires working on S3, and so naturally the writing tanked severely at the start of the season (I will be devoting a separate entry to that heartbreak), but then there came a really fantastic episode. The show started to recover. I had hope. I haven't watched the most recent episode yet, but it ended with a memorial:
This 'joke' was so hypnotizing that even Sargon of Akkad was affected:
I don't usually bother making YouTube comments, but he claims he actually reads them, so today I bothered. Here is a link to it, and here it is in full:
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Dude you're ignoring whole conversastions. Maybe the writing looks so lazy to you because you've forgotten most of it.
Arya meeting Nymeria was clearly a chekhov's gun. That something hasn't happened yet does not mean the writing is bad. The story is not finished.
There was actually an argument in the show about why Jon had to go to Dragonstone and it reached a resolution. Did you miss it? You're talking like you watched the first line of that scene and then skipped to the next.
Littlefinger was not executed for killing Ned Stark. Joffrey Bratheon is the one who killed Ned Stark. (Joffrey Baratheon was killed by Olenna Tyrell and Littlefinger who conspired to poison him for reasons unrelated to Ned). Littlefinger was executed for starting the war between the Lannisters and the Starks by poisoning Jon Arryn, the Lord of the Vale, and also for killing his wife, Sansa's Aunt Lysa, the Lady of the Vale. Sansa is the niece of the murdered Lord and Lady of the Vale. She just exposed and executed their house's usurper. Perhaps that has something to do with the reason the Knights of the Vale stuck with her. Who else is going to lead them? Robin? You want the Knights of the Vale to start taking orders directly from a tantruming teen autist whose allegiances can be swayed by gifting him a new pet? The Vale is Sansa's.
Daenerys clearly has an actual psychic connection to her dragons. Good job. Slow clap.
One good point so far: originally Dothraki sucked against plate armor, so why don't they suck now? The dragon may be a good enough reason in this one instance, but the issue should come up.
Other good point I guess: yes the travel times are a bit fucked. No, that it is fantasy does not excuse inconsistency. However I think they are probably less severely fucked than you think they are.
Yes, mass producing ballistas might be exactly what Cercei plans to do with some of her funds from the Iron Bank, now that she can afford it. The fact that something hasn't happened yet does not mean the writing is bad. The story is not finished.
You think it was "convenient" that Jon's a Targaryan "by the way"? You think that's a plot contrivance? Holy shit? R+L=J has been built in since the very beginning. It is absolutely central. Rewatch S1, pleb.
I will not be bothering with the last six minutes and I will not be going back to listen to this over again to make sure I didn't miss anything. Yes, there are a few problems. There are also a lot of brilliant elements that you are completely ignoring.
Jesus Christ Sargon. You're a really smart guy and I love you but you took a huge stinky dump today. Consider not taking your cues from the mean-girl gossip spat out by a few catty diversity hires on the Rick and Morty writing team.
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That Rick and Morty writing memorial thing wasn't a joke. It didn't have a punchline. It was mud flung hypocritically and unprofessionally at a superior in classic prissy high school clique fashion. THIS is what competent catty humor looks like.
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Date: 2017-08-31 03:33 pm (UTC)I thought Arya meeting Nymeria could've been closure on Nymeria's unknown fate since season 1, but could also come back later.
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Date: 2017-08-31 04:11 pm (UTC)Direwolves are effectively weapons and the North is being invaded by monsters. I'd put money on Nymeria's return. She won't take orders but she'll take out some baddies. Maybe drop in when Arya's in a desperate spot.
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Date: 2017-08-31 04:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2017-08-31 08:55 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2017-09-01 01:58 am (UTC)Also, a word on the time-line, the problem with the books and the first five seasons of the series which were based closely on the books -- is that it took forever for anyone to get from point A to point B, and they often failed in the attempt. OR would be horribly side-tracked. There was one point in the books, and during those seasons, in which I thought -- why even bother leaving your house, you'll never get there.
So, shortening the travel time between places, an age-old television and film device is not that problematic. (Heck, consider people loved 24, and that was even less believable. Actually 24 wasn't plausible at all. But another discussion.) And...we have no idea how long it took. The events could be taking a month or so later. Be nice if the writers put in there -- a month later, but we can assume it took a month or at least two weeks for Jon to get to Dany, but nothing of interest happened in between.
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Date: 2017-09-07 06:19 pm (UTC)